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Smoothie · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject: Audi shifter egg removal

I had another of those days where one thing leads to another and this is about the other thing that was led to...
The initial project was to repair the leather and rubber shifter boots, but then while that stuff was off I decided to mess with the shifter. The egg-shaped pin got replaced with a bolt. 8 pics with descriptions starting here -
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Paul · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject:

Nice work, but I think I would have tacked a couple of welds on the driver's side of the screw.

Smoothie · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:43 am Post subject:

Welding would have made it more permanent than I wanted. I like the idea of being able to redo it again in the future by just grinding down the head of a 40mm bolt and screwing it in. I'm pretty sure it'll stay together alright with the tight fitting threads and threadlocker. I also wrapped the rest of the threaded portion of the bolt with plastic electrical tape to serve as a sort of lubricant - actually, teflon tape might have been a better choice there.

Here's the shifter boot -

A piece of denim fabric was contact-cemented on from behind to patch a couple of holes in the leather. That and the patching I did on the inner rubber boot (large patches of inner-tube rubber contact-cemented on) probably had more of a stiffening affect on the shifter than replacing the pin, but I notice it loosening up some already after just a few miles driving. The pin fix took a lot of play out and so-far it seems to have improved shifting into reverse - which wasn't always happening on the first try.
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'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox

Smoothie · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:00 am Post subject:

Well given a few days driving it, I have to rate this fix as well worthwhile.
The boots are broken-in and not interfering with the shifter action and the pin replacement's seriously tightened up the shifting action. If I didn't know better I'd think something like a short shifter was installed. -And the iffy shift into reverse is cured - it's gone in easily on the first try every time.

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maireeka · Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 299 Location: North Alabama

this is on the four speed tranny like I have in my 1977? I think maybe it would be worth a shot on my car!
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Smoothie · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:53 am Post subject:

If it's an Audi manual transmission (one shift rod connected to the shift lever and shown on pg.152 of the Haynes), then the same procedure applies. It wouldn't apply to the Getrag (aka "snailshell") which has 2 rods connected to the shift lever - they're not prone to the same kind of wear and would normally just need some new bushings.
One thing if you're going to do it - I'd have preferred to use a partially threaded bolt, but already had several of the fully threaded type, so one of them got used. If you have to go out and buy a bolt, try to get one that's "partially threaded" so the rod will be riding on an unthreaded section of the bolt.
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kaffine · Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 644 Location: Las Vegas

I added a grease zerk to the shift linkage when I replaced it. I might consider that a bad idea after I finally get around to installing the shifter boot again and have to take it off every oil change to grease it but for right now I think that it will keep it from wearing out again. If I ever have the trans out again I think I'll secure a line to the linkage and have the grease zerk back by the trans so I don't have to remove the shifter boot to grease it.
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Smoothie · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:53 am Post subject:

Zerks are good...good idea - I might have done that myself today if my brain was working.
Autozone had 50mm partially threaded bolts, so I got some and altered one to use on the shifter.

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blargonator · Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 100 Location: kalamazoo MI

hehe that "pin" snapped on mine thanks to my brother <8- P so we had a friend weld it and it snapped in 2 seconds

so i just ordered one off a 944 on ebay

....but then the car stopped running, atleast i can act like im driving

Smoothie · Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:22 pm Post subject:

Alright, one more alteration.. Not sure if it was made necessary due to the #640 Loctite that was used or the fact that I'd installed the new bolt a little tighter, but the bolt started moving - and it did the opposite of what I would have expected, tightening up instead of loosening. Anyway, it was back to the drill press for another drill & tap - this time through the edge so an M4 size set-screw could be used. Went back to #271 Loctite, used anti-seize lube on the unthreaded portion of the bolt and left it a bit looser. With that plus the set-screw I should be done with it.

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"..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."

'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox